Hong Kong: 網路超連結和線上性愛對話，有罪!!
出自Taipedia
- 原文：Hong Kong: Guilty for Hyperlink and for Sex Talk
- 作者：Oiwan Lam
- 譯者：phrenic
- 校對：abstract
香港政府一邊鼓勵每個家庭可以多生幾個孩子，又一邊努力的嚴格審核有關性的資訊。當然，性與生育不是完全的有關聯，但是我們怎麼可能在無性行為的狀況下有孩子? 大概政府會很快的要提倡試管嬰兒吧。
The Hong Kong government is encouraging family to have three babies, at the same time, it is so keen on censoring away information concerning sex. Of course sex is not all about giving birth, but how can we have babies without sex? Guess the government will advocate test tube babies pretty soon.
最近被審查是違反規定的案子是，在成人BBS討論區貼上色情圖片的連結。法院最後判定被告違反公共秩序善良風俗，罰緩5000美金。
The latest sex censorship is a case against posting a hyperlink to pronographical photos in the adult section of a BBS forum. The court found the defendant guilty under COIAO (Control of Obscene and Indecent Articles Ordinance) and sentenced to $5000 fine.
Charles Mok 非常擔心這件案子:
Charles Mok is very worried about the the case:
我覺得沒有必要把這樣的事情以法律的強制力帶進法院處理。很明顯的，有人向影視及娛樂事務管理處(TELA)抱怨，但是他們卻可能允許其他更情色(更糟)的照片被張貼在討論區，那，為什麼警方要專抓這個個案? 事實上，在香港的法律很少會先以長期的實行來獲取結果，但卻時常會想藉由將一些很小看似無罪卻又好像在危險邊緣的案子帶進法院，看法院的反應。這樣的執行方式，讓我很擔憂，我覺得這樣對使用者很不公平，因為他們並沒有被警告怎樣會觸法(你不可以只說”因為妳張貼了一些色情照片所以你活該”)，而且對於提供者而言這也是件麻煩的事。我還記得幾年前，當我還是ISP協會的主席時，TELA告訴我他們對於那些連結一點辦法都沒有，即使內容是有關孩童情色。這規定是何時變的?!
I think it is uncalled for for law enforecement to bring the case to court. Apparently someone made a complaint to TELA. But they are probably definitely many more serious (worse) pictures being posted on forums, and why did the Police only prosecute this case? The fact that the law enforcement in Hong Kong seldom likes to use education first, but always want to test the limit of the court by bringing nitty gritty cases to test, this practice worries me a lot and I think it is unfair to the users because they are not warned ahead of the dangers (you can't just say, 「you are posting dirty pictures so you deserve it」), and to the providers it is troublesome too. I clearly remember years ago as the Chairman of the ISP Association, TELA told me that they can't do anything about those hyperlinks even if the content behind them are child porn. When did that change!?
如果一個能構成香港特別行政區政府電訊管理局COIAO所定義的「文章」的網路文章，那它可以成為那些至民、刑法院告發他人張貼「罪惡」的先例嗎? 我覺得用這樣的方式來判定網路連結是不對的，因為連結點會連結到哪裡並不是被使用這個連結的人所可以控制的，而且連結點後方的內容是隨時都可以變更的。
If hyperlinks are articles that can constitute as 「articles」 in COIAO, will it be a precedent case that others can prosecute people posting hyperlink for many other 「crimes」 in civil or criminal courts for all kinds of things, even subversion or libel? It is not right I think to judge hyperlink this way, because the link points to some place not controlled by this user making use of the hyperlink, and the content behind the hyperlink can change.
這樣將會使得搜尋引擎，或其他的網路架設公司，甚至ISP都會被嚴重的牽連。香港政府希望他們對網路連結從現在起就開始實行自我審核? 搜尋引擎公司也可能是定一個惹上麻煩的。這個案子將會對香港的電信公共建設(包括我們的法律基礎建設)及主張要有資訊自由的信譽，造成嚴重的負面結果。[www.google.com.tw Google]和[www.yahoo.com Yahoo]要退出香港嗎?
This will also have dire implications to search engines or even other web hosting companies or ISPs. Does the Hong Kong government want them to carry out self-censorship from now on, on even hyperlinks? Search engine companies may be the first to get into troubles. This has serious negative consequences for Hong Kong's IT infrastructure (which includes our legal infrastructure) and the reputation of having freedom of information. Should Google and Yahoo! get out of Hong Kong?
Wanszezit 非常的生氣，而且說他自己一定早已經犯了法了:
wanszezit is very angry and says he must have broken the law as well:
看到這樣的報導，第一個反應就是「有沒有搞錯」，香港幾時變了大陸？同理，我是不是都已犯過了法? 我有好幾次，貼上比色情照片還淫亂千百倍的色情YouTube 連結過呢!!
When I read this report, my first reaction is 「what the hell is this?!」 When does Hong Kong become mainland China? And, have I broken the law before? I have posted much more 「obscene」 youtube links before!
Plastichk finds the situation so ridiculous:
在「成人貼圖區」發佈成人照片，由發佈到觀看的，雙方都是成年人，…為何同一張相片，貼在美國的討論區則合法，放 server 在香港則否？但同樣觀看的人身卻在香港），對香港警方來說，這樣的行為又如何影響香港治安了？警力過盛嗎？…
In an 「Adult photo sharing BBS」 for posting photos, supposingly all are adults… why for a same photo, when you post in a U.S BBS, it is legal, in a Hong Kong server, it becomes illegal? even though viewers are all from Hong Kong?) As for the police, how can they argue that such behaviour would affect local security? do we have too many police here?…
為了要反抗這樣荒謬且泛政治化的案子，我已經放了裸體照(從flickr來的連結)和連結去inmediahk.net色情部落格，藉以歡迎香港的政府的刑事控告，我也同時邀請其他的網路居民一起來使這樣的行動成為一個集體的法律行動。
In order to protest against this ridiculous and highly political case, I have put a nude photo (link from flickr) and a hyperlink to a sex blog at inmediahk.net to invite criminal charge from Hong Kong government. I have also invited other netizens to make it a collective legal action.
Fred Lam回應了我的呼籲，並且張貼了所有他在goolge上以「性感寶貝」搜尋到的連結。
Fred Lam has echoed my call and posted all the links that he search from google under 「sexy hot chick」.
如果貼超連結都有罪的話，請問為甚麼政府不起訴 Google，而起訴一個在成人貼圖區貼三級相片超連結的小網民？
If hyperlink is guilty, why doesn't the government prosecute google, but a netizen who posted a hyperlink in an adult discussion group?
這並不是只是個個案，因為幾天前，中國大學學生媒體因為他們在學生雜誌上開了性專欄而被主流媒體攻擊。
This is not a single case, because a few days ago, the Chinese University Student Press is also under attack by the mainstream media because they have opened some sex columns at the student magazine.
根據學生媒體的內部消息(透過inmediahk.net [zh)]，主流媒體有接到一些保守宗教團體的報怨信件，然後，在12個小時內，這個故事就成為了中國各大報紙的頭條新聞。而該大學的教務處已經聲明了，說他們會觀察這件事件，並且考慮處罰雜誌負責之學生。
According to an insider story (via inmediahk.net [zh]) from the Student Press, the mainstream media got some complaint letters from conservative religious groups, and within 12 hours, the story hit the headline of major mainstream Chinese newspapers. And the university administration made a statement that they would investigate the issue and consider to punish the students who are in charge of the magazine.
這個猥褻的文章是個有關性方面的問卷，包括性幻想。共有14組問題，有兩個問題是有關對亂倫及獸交的幻想和感覺。
The obscene article is a questionaire about sex, including sex fantasy. Among the 14 sets of questions, two are about fantasy and attitude towards incest and bestiality.
這件案子已經引起了當地的同性戀及性權全體的關注。這並不是保守宗教團體第一次以審查制度當作工具要使性的對話沉默。
The case has raised concern from local homosexual and sex rights groups. As it is not the first time conservative religion groups make use of the censorship tool to silent sex talk.
而影視及娛樂事務管理處將會觀察此案，並決定學生是否有違反COIAO。在inmediahk.net上已發起了一個請求聲援無罪的簽署活動。
As the Television and Entertainment Licensing Authority will investigate the case and decide whether the student magazine has also violated the COIAO, a signature campaign has been launched at inmediahk.net to plead for not guilty.
同時，大學的懲戒委員會發表宣言指出，學生媒體「已經超過了令人可接受的道德界線」，將會禁止這些色情版的刊登，並且打算懲處雜誌的編輯，因為「這已經影響了該校的形象」Plato質疑學校的校務會是否有權介入學生媒體編輯的策略?
Meanwhile, the university disciplinary committee has issued a statement saying that the student press 「has passed the acceptable moral line」 and will ban the publication of the sex pages and consider punishing the editor in charge as the publication has 「affected the image of the university」. Plato questions whether the school administration body has the power to intervene into the student press' editorial policy:
請中大校長、中大校務會學生紀律委員會不要受傳媒一面倒的批評所影響，請你們自行閱讀問卷的問題和內容，倘若問卷的問題及 答案有直接宣揚某類性行為，請清楚指出，我相信編輯同學欠中大學生一個解釋，但倘若沒有，請中大校務會學生紀律委員會發表聲明向中大學生報編輯道歉，而本人閱讀問卷的問題和答案後，並不覺得它有宣揚某類性行為的跡象，相反的，它只交待不同人對某些我們在日常社交中不敢宣諸於口的性幻想、性行為和性經驗。
I wish that the Chinese University Principal and disciplinary committee could read the questionaire by themselves and not be affected by the mainstream biased report. If the questions and answers have advocated some sort of sexual behaviour, please point it out and let the editors explain to the students. If not, the disciplinary committee should apologize to the editors. I read the questionaires and the answers, and did not find any advocacy of certain sexual behaviour. On the other hand, it reports on certain sexual fantasies, behaviours and experiences that exist among people but rarely discussed.
我不知道中大校務會學生紀律委員會是一個什麼單位，它是否有權要求中大學生報的編輯停止刊登情色版的內容呢？
I have no idea what kind of administrative unit the disciplinary committee belongs to, whether it has the power to order the student press's editors not to publish content related with sex.
國際特赦(香港) 也已向校務會發表聲明，該組織明白表示，紀律委員會如此的裁判，對於香港的言論及媒體自由所會產生的影響感到擔憂。
Amnesty International (Hong Kong) has also issued a statement to the University Administration. The organization expressed concern that the judgement of the discipinary committee will affect the freedom of speech and press in Hong Kong.
然而，diumanpark criticises 不做批評但卻遵守以下的市場邏輯。
However, diumanpark criticises that the editors are not critical but follow the market logic.
今日學生早就已經沒有了熱情，他們只擔心市場銷售，或者製造新的銷售市場。當我還是學生時，既有熱血亦具有相當的批判性，對於以新聞包裝色情，會加以抗拒和批評。但今日世界的不同了，一個學生媒體所創的情色版，不僅贏過了報紙，就連色情雜誌也望首莫及。
Today the students are without passion, they just concerned about the market or making the market. When I were student, I were passionate and critical. I would criticise obscenity in newspapers. Today the world is very different, a student press has won over the newspapers and sex magazines.
Jim認為該校的學生只是反映了現今的社會，
Jim feels that the university students are just reflection of the society,
眾所周知，香港教育制度落後，性教育不足，雖說是大學生，性知識仍相當貧乏，滿腦子只裝了由網路和情色刊物所提供的垃圾資訊。因此，等有機會自己辦報時，欲以學術方式談論性，到頭來還是亂倫、人獸交等話題？這究竟是大學生的錯，還是社會的錯？
The whole world know that Hong Kong is so backward in education, there is a lack of sex education. Even for university students, their don't have enough knowledge about sex, their brains are full of rubbish from internet and sex magazine. When they have chance to publish their own magazine, they want to explore the issue, however, in the end it is the same old topics about incest and animal sex. The fault is on the university students or on the society?
我也同時簽署了一份聲明反對COIAO的裁判，不是因為我喜歡閱讀學生雜誌內的情色專欄，而是因為反對這個會摧毀整個香港社會的不合理審核制度。
I have also signed the statement against the charge of COIAO, not that I enjoy reading the sex column in student magazine, but against the unreasonable censorship practice in Hong Kong that would eventually ruin the society.